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[這篇文章最後由Cat在 2003/01/24 02:26pm 第 1 次編輯]

各位大大還記得從前站上有一個使用添加劑種類的投票嗎?
https://www.ph84.idv.tw/cgi-bin/board/topic.cgi?forum=20&topic=29&show=25
平常有在添加碘的人其實還不少....
對於碘的功效大家都知道小弟也就不再贅述,
不過您是否曾經和小弟的感覺一樣? 碘添加劑是加心安的, 看不出有何明顯功效!
以下摘錄一些廠商對其碘添加劑的介紹, 其中有些說明還值得一看
1) KENT
Although present in salt mixes, iodine is rapidly used up in the system,
and removed through protein skimming, ozone and filtration. Super Iodine
Supplement supplies iodine needed for proper growth and health of
invertebrates and algae. It contains a safe, stabilized form of iodine
which will not destroy system bacteria, as some competing products will.
It contains no organic forms of iodine which can pollute the system.
Kent Marine Super Iodine Supplement is a proven performer!
大意是說在我們的魚缸中使用的 蛋白除沫器 & 臭氧 & 過濾器 會快速的將碘消耗殆盡
2) AquaCraft
Iodide is essential for the growth of all corals. Iodide is fundamental
to proper Redox potential. Iodide is consumed by a variety of corals and
can also be removed by protein skimming and contact with carbons and some
filter resins. It is essential to: a) use a marine salt that contains bromide
in order to allow captive marine pets to metabolize iodide. See Importance of
Bromide. b) replenish this basic ion in heavily stocked coral reef tanks.
大意是說碘為所有珊瑚生長所須的基本元素, 它會被生物及過濾系統消耗
3)Two Little Fishies
Iodide and iodine supplement made from potassium iodide and seaweed extracts.
Use this supplement to provide an extra boost of this important element and
observe the positive effects. Great for growing Xenia, other soft corals and
delicate red and brown seaweeds
大意是說當您使用碘添加劑來提升碘含量將會看到正面的效果
4)hW
Natural seawater contains an average iodine concentration of about 60 mg/l
(including all detectable iodine compounds). This corresponds to a rough
”standard value” for natural seawater not exposed to any reef influences.
In reef areas close to the coast, the iodine values are considerably higher.
On the coast as well as in reef zones, these values are substantially higher
due to the decomposition of algae and the release of the iodine concentrations
accumulated in them. For this reason, the iodine concentration in the ocean is
distinctly lower then in ocean reef zones.
The element iodine
Iodine can be added to aquarium water in diverse forms; this unfortunately often
greatly simplifies the addition of iodine in reef aquariums without the possible
risks being taken into account.
Important to remember is that iodine in its unstabilised form is an extremely
aggressive and highly volatile halogen element (highly light-sensitive in this form).
In a free or unstable form, iodine can have a disastrous effect on all forms of life
in the aquarium. In this form, it can cause caustic burns and seriously harm
respiratory organs, mucus membranes and tissues. Numerous products available on
the market are based on an unstable and highly volatile iodine compound. An
example is the relatively unstable and therefore often aggressive potassium iodide
solution or simple iodine based alcohol solution.
Unfortunately, plain potassium iodide or iodide solutions are still available,
which can have the aforementioned risks and disadvantages.
大意是說海水平均碘含量為 60 mg/l (包含所有可測的碘複合物),
但在珊瑚礁中由於海藻的分解, 使得碘含量更高,
碘在不穩定的形態下將會對生物造成傷害
5)SeaChem
Reef Iodide is an iodide supplement for those with dense populations of invertebrates
or soft corals. It is also useful in tanks with aggressive skimmers. Reef Iodide is
concentrated at 8,000 mg/L. As little as 1 mL in 160 Liters (40 gallons) will raise
iodide to natural seawater concentration. It is formulated to provide a safe source
of iodide that will not convert to toxic free iodine under storage or reef conditions.
It is recommended that this product be used with the MultiTest: Iodide test kit to
ensure proper maintenance of iodide levels. 100 mL treats 8,000 L (2,000 gallons).
DIRECTIONS: BEGINNER: Add 2 mL for each 80 L (20 gallons) every other day. Measuring
pipette is included (or cap may be used, 5 mL)
ADVANCED: Add 1 mL for each 80 L (20 gallons) daily to raise iodide by 0.10 mg/L.
If necessary, adjust dose so that iodide reads 0.06–0.08 mg/L 6–12 hours after
the last dose. Thereafter, use this dose daily and check iodide twice a month.
EXPERT: After determining the iodide consumption rate, set up a continuous drip system.
Use the following formula to determine how much to add to your top-off water: m=0.5vi
(m=mL of product to add to top off water, v=volume of tank in gallons, i=amount to
raise iodide in mg/L). For example, if you want to raise iodide by 0.10 mg/L in a
50 gallon tank, then you would add 0.5x50x0.10=2.5 mL into the top-off water. HINTS:
It is normal for iodide levels to decline after a few days. This results from
utilization and chemical depletion. Therefore, frequency of use will vary with
different reef tanks. Dosing can be adjusted based on coral response. To check iodide
levels use Seachem’s MultiTest: Iodine & Iodide test kit.
大意是說利用碘添加劑和測試劑來維持魚缸碘含量

在此小弟和大家分享一下自己使用 碘添加劑 & 測試劑 的結果
根據 NSW 海水的標準碘含量為 0.06 mg/l
小弟使用 Seachem 碘測試劑的結果如下
測試劑附的標準液 0.06 mg/l
天然海水 0 mg/l
RO + 海水素 0 mg/l
自來水 NA
當使用自來水當測試樣本時,
在不該變色的步驟就開始變色,
摘錄說明書的解釋如下:
..... If a blue color develops now, elemental iodine is indicated.
This should viewed as a hazardous status. Use a dechlorinator
such as XXX to remove elemental iodine.
曾經有大大與小弟分享測試缸中碘含量的結果,
他說碘含量一測出來就是到達標準, 而且不太會減少....
但這和所有上述廠商的廣告詞互相矛盾,
除非廠商在唬爛, 不然所有的廠商都告訴我們碘會被快速的消耗....
所以如果您是用自來水泡海水素且碘含量不會下降,
Seachem 碘測試劑的說明書也許就解釋了這種結果,
這種結果是否正確是好是壞小弟不敢妄下斷論就留給各位自己判斷
小弟自己的100L魚缸添加一定量的添加劑後測得:
10 min 約 0.06 mg/l
2 hr 約 0.03 mg/l
4 hr 0 mg/l
依據測試結果碘消失的速度非常之快,
這也解釋了為何魚店賣的天然海水或 RO+海水素都測不出碘,
其實就算是天然海水, 也許在離開自然環境後很多元素都會快速消失,
更何況是滿載生物的魚缸....
無怪乎照著廠商的建議量添加根本看不出效果, 尤其是有測鎂和鍶的大大們應該更能體會...
但這和添加劑的品牌成份以及魚缸的情況有很大關係, 不可一概而論,
小弟只是提供自己的測試結果和經驗, 不敢保證其正確性, 所以請大家參考就好不要太在意
在沒有測試劑的幫助下大量添加碘很容易瞬間超過標準,
超量添加會不會造成傷害我不知道, 所以請您不要貿然嘗試,
小弟早已陷入測試和添加的無窮迴圈當中傷財傷神無法自拔,
所以很多大大都已返樸歸真只靠換水, 不再像小弟一樣胡亂添加有的沒的,
這就和有人跟我說他用自來水泡海水素養軟體也OK一樣, 只是小弟還達不到如此境界罷了,
若您能夠控制缸中的營養鹽, 並已找出適合自己魚缸維持 Ca & KH 平衡的方法,
接下來可以考慮郵購一些國內沒有的測試劑來控制鎂, 鍶, 碘的含量, 相信效果是看得出來的.... ^_^
先前因使用AZOO劣質KH試劑導致魚缸KH過高而萎縮的腦,
在維持適當KH及"適量"添加碘後已有改善
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再次強調這只是我個人的測試結果請參考就好不要太在意,
我想還有其它的大大使用別牌別種的測試劑(鎂,鍶,碘,鐵..etc),
希望也能和大家一起分享心得!!
 
真是有心的Cat兄, 小弟起立給您鼓掌~ ^_____^
依小弟個人經驗,就如"兩隻小魚"的大意一樣,添加碘後的第二天,菇類珊瑚有明顯的改變,
在添加前原以為牠們已經開的很好很大了,添加後沒想到可以大的不像話 ^^
腦類珊瑚也有些許的影響,
 
好認真在做功課 也很有實驗的精神 很棒的經驗交流 拍拍手 謝謝你的奉獻
 
太用心了.相信你魚缸越來越棒.
 
Cat 兄在魚缸的維護方面一向是很用心的, 不像我常常大而化之
 
Cat兄,
您真是超級用心,好心有好報...祝福您的美缸
小弟目前正在測鍶...鎂...錪...硼...酚...溶氧量....矽酸鹽,想想不知道該接著PO還是另起一帖,因為實在無法跟您的詳細紀錄相比較.....慚愧啊....
 
天然海水會更好....^^.....
明天的明天更好更好更好
 
[這篇文章最後由andyhu在 2003/01/25 04:08am 第 2 次編輯]

剛剛終於測完一些項目,還是接著PO在Cat兄這帖,免得丟臉...cc,小弟會加強紀錄的....加油吧...>.<
使用測試劑為全系列Salifert測試劑,不過大家不用急著去買來測,先看看小弟跟其他大大試用的結果再買,因為現在台灣有賣的店家賣的太貴...超貴....過一陣子也許會便宜些,小弟也會配合一些目前市面上沒有的添加劑來做紀錄,不過這個工程對小弟來說真的太大了....>.<
1.Organics=1
2.Iodine=0.06ppm
3.Boron=3ppm
4.Mg=1290ppm
5.Ca=480(這個跟JBL測出來的有些差異,JBL=420)
6.O2=7mg/L
7.Si=0ppm(還好....這是我最擔心的...cc)
8.Sr=10mg/L
小弟這些測試劑是國外廠商提供的,如果又有店家說是小弟跟他們買的,各位大大可以直接吐槽說他吹牛,抱歉,這是題外話了,真是被這些不老實的店家氣屎了.....
 
測自來水的碘會不會受到餘氯分子的干擾? 如果先曝氣再測量會不會比較正確?
 
to andy 大哥 :
您魚缸的水質幾乎都是到達標準呢!! 太厲害了!!
為何我用 Seachem 的碘試劑來測連天然海水都測不出來呢? 只有在剛加完添加劑才測得到說.....
測自己魚缸&天然海水的鎂也都在標準以下~~
to joey 大哥
您說得沒錯, 用曝氣後的自來水就測不到了

我覺得有在用的添加劑都該測測看,
以免加了等於沒加甚至反效果
..... 這些試劑有的台北的店有在賣,
不過價錢就不便宜了~~
 
Salifert測試劑
民權東路魚街有人在賣啊
但是只有PO4和KH兩種
價格我覺得還好
跟我在國外買差價不多啦
該測試劑我認為相當好用
KH的精確度到0.2
意思是可以測到如11.2或11.4
大家去找找喔
 
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